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 From: SHANE NOLAN                           Date: 03-30-95 19:42
   To: ALL                                   Msg#: 458
Subj.: CNI News v4.6         1/3
 Area: UFONews

CNI News - Volume 4.6
March 23, 1995

The stories in this edition of CNI News are:
1) THE LAZAR SYNOPSIS, Part Two
2) UFO AUTHOR BOB TEETS REPORTS FROM THE "GRASS ROOTS"
3) "DREAMLAND" RADIO FEATURES UFO RESEARCHERS

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The next edition of CNI News will appear on Monday, March 27.

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1) THE LAZAR SYNOPSIS, Part Two
by Gene Huff

[Editor's Note: From the moment he "went public" in mid-1989, Bob Lazar
became one of the most controversial figures associated with the UFO subject.
This is part two of a report written by Las Vegas businessman Gene Huff, who
probably knows more about Lazar's story than anyone but Bob himself. While
Gene believes Lazar's claims and defends him, CNI News is well aware of
accusations concerning Lazar's credibility. This report is offered as a basis
for further discussion, and CNI News welcomes reader response. This report
was originally posted on ALTUFO-L Digest on March 12 and is reproduced here
with Gene Huff's permission. Gene can be reached by email at
[e-mail]]

Gene's text follows:

In subsequent visits to the briefing room, Bob read overview reports which
were used to give the diverse group of S4 scientists some idea of the breadth
of the project. Naturally, they were all given in depth information regarding
their own particular endeavors, but it seems that they couldn't put good
scientific minds to work and compartmentalize information so much that
someone wouldn't say, "By the way, aren't these flying saucers we're working
on?" The scientists at S4 worked in teams and were obviously not allowed to
chat in the lunch room about what everybody else was doing, so apparently
they gave them all a limited overview to satisfy their curiosity and keep
them sane.
     In these reports Bob read information about man's history and philosophy
and theology and the part that these aliens, who brought the disc technology,
played in these areas. Much of this information was alarming, even shocking,
and it has certainly changed my life. This information, combined with the
defense capabilities and possibilities of disc technology and gravity
propulsion, has caused this to be the most secret program in history and THE
pet project which the military and political elite have kept from the rest of
the DOD and, for that matter, the rest of mankind.
     During this time, agents from the Office of Federal Investigation, the
OFI, would randomly visit Bob's house. The OFI agents are the guys who do
background checks on people hired for classified positions on the Nevada Test
Site, and elsewhere I would imagine. One time an agent named Mike Thigpen
visited with other agents and searched Bob's house and belongings. Thigpen
was witnessed there by Kristen Merck, Bob's now ex-sister-in-law, and Mrs.
Wayne Higdon, the wife of a mutual friend of Bob's and mine.
     George Knapp later asked Thigpen what he was doing at Bob's house.
Thigpen claimed he had no file on it and he couldn't remember being there. He
said maybe he was there asking Bob questions about Jim Tagliani, a friend of
ours who was then trying to get clearance to work as an electronics
technician at the stealth fighter base on the Tonopah Test Range. This was a
ridiculous response. Thousands of people nationwide have been visited by
investigators from the OFI or DOD to respond to questions about friends and
neighbors and relatives who are in the process of getting cleared for
classified positions. These agents hardly retain the right to search your
house and personal belongings.
     Obviously, Thigpen was doing his job by not remembering being at Bob's
house, even though he was witnessed there by two women who didn't even really
know each other. In defense of the OFI investigators, the guys doing the
background checks are not necessarily informed of the destination of the
subject of their investigation. Even if Thigpen had admitted his activities
at Bob's house, this would have been no sort of verification that he knew
what Bob was in for. The depth of the requisite investigation may indicate
the level of security clearance, but not the actuality of the subject's
employment.
     Around this same time, the U.S. scientists at S4 had made some sort of
discovery which was a major step forward in understanding disc technology and
gravity propulsion. We had apparently involved some Russian scientists to
whatever degree, and rather than share this advance with them, we kicked them
out. Bob doesn't know that the Russians were allowed to actually work with
the hardware. They may have only been involved in the mathematical and
physical theory; he doesn't know. Anyway, the Russians weren't pleased about
being left out.
     One of the S4 scientists didn't show up for work for a couple of days
and security was paranoid. They said that the KGB had a presence in Las Vegas
and they were afraid that they would either abduct someone that worked at S4
subject of their investigation. Even if Thigpen had admittedor make the bribe
so good that someone wouldn't be able to refuse. The S4 guy
eventually turned up, but security wanted to be safe rather than sorry. They
decided to make everyone in the program who flew out from EG&G carry guns
from home to EG&G and from EG&G back home.
     At EG&G, a female official distributed a small caliber pistol to Bob and
told him that if he lost it, he'd have to pay them $500 for it. Bob said no
way, because he knew this pistol wasn't even worth $500. After some
discussion, Bob made them aware that he had a .44 magnum, amongst other guns,
and they agreed that he would carry his own gun. However, since all of Bob's
guns were purchased in New Mexico and had never been registered, they wanted
Bob to register his guns so everything was legal. Dennis Mariani escorted Bob
down to the Las Vegas Metro substation on the southwest corner of Atlantic
and St. Louis. Bob sat in a waiting area and Mariani went in and spoke about
whatever with the police official in charge. A short time later, the police
official came out of the office with Mariani to make a copy of something. He
looked at Bob and scoffed, "So THIS is the kid the Russians might be after?"
I guess Bob wasn't the big, strong, he-man required to command this guy's
respect.
     It's curious that Mariani would have even mentioned anything like that
to a local cop. In Nevada, you can carry a gun in your car as long as it's
not concealed. Your car is interpreted as an extension of your home, so Bob
didn't need a permit to carry a concealed weapon or anything like that. This
event has subsequently caused us to question whether or not Dennis Mariani
was from Nevada.
     Also around this same time something was going on that Bob didn't know
about. The feds monitoring his phone line had heard Tracy [Bob's wife]
talking with her flight instructor, who was teaching her more than just how
to fly. She was having an affair and they knew that if Bob inadvertently
found out or if Tracy confessed, Bob could potentially become emotionally
unstable. They kept him involved at S4 on a limited basis but the time
intervals between calls to work lengthened and he became frustrated. This was
ultimately a blessing for Jim Tagliani and me.
     Bob sensed that something was wrong. They had given him a taste of honey
and he had a strong desire to get back out to S4. He would hear us talking
about George Knapp's UFO shows and we would wonder aloud about the actuality
of the situation. In a rebellious move, Bob threw us some hints and finally
decided that he would do us the favor of allowing us to KNOW, not suspect,
that something was really happening. After not being called to work for some
time, he broke down and told me. I understand that he told Jim Tagliani
around the same time. We didn't have group meetings or anything like that.
Jim didn't know what I knew and I didn't know what Jim knew. Bob was the
central cog in that relationship and, though I consider Jim Tagliani a
friend, we seldom socialize together unless Bob is involved.
     When Bob told me, we were riding down Alta drive in my car. He said that
he was working at S4 on flying discs and he was back engineering the
propulsion system. I was intrigued to say the least. He said one of the discs
looked like it had been stood up on it's edge to have a projectile fired
through it to test the integrity of the metal or something along those lines.
The conversation was brief, but I remember it like it was yesterday.
     I now had a million questions to ask Bob, but we couldn't talk on the
telephone and, considering the state of the art in listening devices, we
couldn't talk at his house either. This confirmation increased my appetite
for reading UFO literature exponentially. I soon saw that no one knew what
Bob knew and I was lucky enough to have him telling me. When we felt it was
safe and convenient, we would have discussions. He would tell me things about
S4 and I would tell him things that I had read. We both found it hilarious
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 From: SHANE NOLAN                           Date: 03-30-95 19:42
   To: ALL                                   Msg#: 459
Subj.: CNI News v4.6         2/3
 Area: UFONews

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that organizations like MUFON and CUFON named themselves by placing UFON
after their initials. So we jokingly nicknamed each other Bufon and Gufon,
for Bob's UFO network and Gene's UFO network, respectively. These were
nicknames that, later, government agents would not find so funny.

     Around this same time, Bob received his first paycheck for one week's
pay, even though the days had never been worked consecutively. The check was
for $958.11. Bob showed me the check and I remember commenting that I thought
that a senior staff physicist, which was Bob's position, would have been paid
more than that. He proceeded to tell me how underpaid scientists were and I
later found out that was true. I think I was the only one, other than Bob, to
ever see that check. He had his eye on some electronic equipment, so he
decided to buy it and not tell Tracy that the check had ever arrived. In
later years when people questioned Bob's W-2, I knew it was actual because,
even though I didn't remember the exact amount, I knew that it was nine
hundred and fifty or sixty bucks which showed me that Bob's W-2 reflected the
money actually received. Later, when he left the program, the government
still owed him for some time worked, a bill which remains unpaid to this day.

     The next time he was called to work, the people at S4 were questioning
Bob about his friend, Joe Vaninetti. They implied they might be interested in
Joe and wanted Bob to get a resume from Joe and take it to the office at
EG&G. On the day when Bob told them he'd have it there, he was busy and
couldn't make it. Since Joe was still down in Los Alamos, Bob asked me to
drop it off for him. I took Joe's resume out to EG&G and the receptionist
asked me what I was doing there. I told her that I had Joe's resume and she
grabbed it from me as though she was expecting it. We still don't know if
they were interested in Joe or they just wanted to know more about him
because he was Bob's main, but not only, Los Alamos connection. They may have
heard Bob talking on the phone with Joe or something like that, no one knows.
The bottom line is, they never hired Joe and his name was never brought up
again.
     On one of Bob's last nights at S4, he was being escorted down a hallway
by armed guards and was told to keep his eyes forward. As they passed a door
with one of those small square windows in it, out of the corner of his eye,
Bob thought he saw a small "grey" alien standing between two men in lab
coats. All three were facing a console of some sort and had their backs to
the door. When he tried to turn his head to actually look and confirm his
sighting, he was pushed forward by a guard behind him and told, again, to
keep his eyes forward. Bob recognized it as a "grey" alien because these
types of beings were shown in reports in the briefing room. To this point, he
had surmised that any grey aliens had been gone since 1979 -- at least that's
what the briefing reports implied. The sight in that room surprised him, to
say the least.
     After work that night, Bob arrived home and Tracy was gone, apparently
to her flying lesson. He needed someone to talk to so he called me. I had
been sick with the flu all that day and my wife had been nursing me back to
health all that evening. I let the answering machine go off and after it
beeped, I heard Bob say, "Gufon, it's Bufon, pick up the phone". I answered
and he suggested that we get together that night. I explained to him that I
had been sick and, after all of my wife's efforts, she would be mad if I
left. He insisted and said that he wanted to talk to me about those "baby
pictures". He and I had no business with baby pictures, so I recognized this
as code. He mentioned photos so if anyone was listening, they wouldn't be
suspicious. I reminded him that I rise early and suggested we get together
the next morning. I asked if he would be up at that early hour. He replied
that he would probably be up all night. I told him I'd talk to my wife and
call him right back.
     I told my wife that something big must have been up because he was so
persistent. After all, we already knew he was working on flying saucers so
this had to be something big. Whatever it was he wanted to talk about was so
important that he risked sounding suspicious to those monitoring his phone. I
called Bob back to tell him I'd come over and, oddly, there was no answer. I
thought maybe he had stepped out to get something to eat. I'd wait about 5
minutes between calls, but he didn't answer the next four times I called him.
Finally, on the sixth call he picked up the phone and said, "I'll have to
call you back, some people from work are here."
     Bob didn't call back that night, but since I had the flu, I fell asleep
anyway. As it ended up, right after I had hung up with him the first time,
government agents arrived at his door and wanted to know who this "Gufon"
character was. To them, this sounded like a code name, not a joke. Bob
explained and they stayed there and filled out a multi-page report on Gene
Huff aka Gufon. We don't know if these were the guys who were actually
listening to our conversation or if they had been radioed or telephoned about
it. However they found out, they couldn't have been far from Bob's house to
arrive that quickly.
     The next morning I arrived at my office around seven. I had taken some
baby pictures to the office with me, just in case. Bob walked into my office
around seven thirty and motioned with his hands in an effort to tell me to
watch what I said. He now knew they were suspicious of me and he didn't want
to talk in my office or on my phone.
     It was highly unusual for Bob to ever be at my office before ten thirty
or so and his face was very ruddy. He looked like he just may have been up
all night. I said, "Here are those baby pictures" as I handed them to him,
and he said, "Thanks". Since we couldn't talk, I grabbed a legal pad and
wrote down two questions. The first one said, "Have you only flown in
planes?", as I was thinking he might have flown in a disc. The second one
said, "Has everyone you've seen been from earth?", for obvious reasons. He
grabbed the pen and answered the questions Yes and No respectively. He said,
"I'll take care of these baby pictures," and left my office. Just to be safe,
I went out to the wetbar sink at my office and burned that piece of paper.
Bob later told me the rest of the story, which I've just told you.
     Now, in present day, when Bob is asked about this event by strangers, he
explains it away by saying that it may just have been an alien doll or
something along those lines which was employed just to test him. He tends to
diminish this story with time, but as you can tell, that's not what he
thought back on that night.
     Another substantial period of time had passed since Bob had been called
to work, and one day I dropped by his house. He answered the door and we
walked out to the sidewalk in front of his house to have a short chat. I was
telling him about all of the UFO stuff I had read recently and the whole time
he was looking up in the sky, preoccupied with his own thoughts. I was
essentially whining that everything of substance in ufology always happened a
long time ago, i.e., the Roswell crash in the '40s, the Russian sightings in
the '50s. I told him that if all this was reality, there should be something
happening somewhere, now, and that's where I wanted to be. He stopped looking
at the sky and looked at me and said, "What are you doing Wednesday night?"
     Bob had had it. He was tired of them not involving him to a greater
degree and he decided to rebel in an aggressive manner. He had decided to
take me to the desert, out off the now-infamous highway 375, to witness a
disc flight test. Bob knew the tests were held on Wednesday evenings right
after dusk.
     The first Wednesday, March 22, 1989, we arrived right at dusk, turned
our lights off, and went in about 5 miles on the Groom Lake road. Soon we saw
a bright light rise above the mountains which were between us and S4. The
light begin jumping and dancing around, doing step moves in the sky, then
would come to a dead stop and hover, etc. It repeated this type of activity
for a few minutes which was thrilling, but it was so far away, we could only
see so much. This activity by the object was blatant and it wasn't our eyes
playing tricks on us with starlight and planet light being distorted by the
atmosphere or clouds, or anything of that sort. Eventually, the light slowly
sat back down behind the mountains. Little did we know that the next
Wednesday, March 29, 1989, would present us with the thrill of a lifetime. I
would not generally remember these Wednesday dates, but my son was born
Wednesday, March 15, 1989, so the Wednesday dates were easy to remember.

TO BE CONTINUED...

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2) UFO AUTHOR BOB TEETS REPORTS FROM THE "GRASS ROOTS"

[CNI News thanks Bob Teets for the following story. Bob can be reached via
email at Terra [e-mail], or by phone at Headline Books, [phone].]

Author and journalist Bob Teets will be the featured guest this Saturday
night, March 25, from 9-11 p.m. PDT on the nationally broadcast radio talk
show, UFOs Tonite. Hosted by UFO Magazine Research Director Don Ecker, the
program will focus on Bob's new book, "West Virginia UFOs: Close Encounters
in the Mountain State," as well as on his other UFO/CNI research.
     Teets was formerly consulting managing editor of the Human Potential
Foundation Press, and in that capacity was involved in national UFO/CNI
research for two years.
     UFOs Tonite airs nationally on the Cable Radio Network and via satellite
(SATCOM C3, Transponder 23, Audio Freq. 7.235).  Listeners may call
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 From: SHANE NOLAN                           Date: 03-30-95 19:42
   To: ALL                                   Msg#: 460
Subj.: CNI News v4.6         3/3
 Area: UFONews

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toll-free, 1-800-336-2225, to chat with the author during the program.
     "Though I had traveled extensively for the Foundation, I wasn't that
familiar with UFO sightings in my area, so thought I'd find out, then
correlate the local sightings to our national findings," Teets says.
     He issued a press release to regional media in July, 1994, and appeared
on a few local talk shows, where he asked for West Virginians with suspected
UFO experiences to call him.
     "I expected a few dozen calls. But in just over 45 days, I had 100
calls. By the time I was ready to write the book, I had nearly 150 calls. And
after the book came out around Christmas, I had in excess of 600 calls!"
     Teets wrote the 224-page book in a month, "because I wanted it out in
time for Christmas. There were a lot of 18-hour days," he adds. But the
former newspaper editor and reporter relied on his journalism experience to
"write fast for deadline." He also acknowledged having previously jointly
analyzed the field with solid findings while working with Dick Farley,
another former Foundation colleague and author of The Matrix of UFO Beliefs,
a briefing document which appears in the book.
     A UFO eyewitness himself, Teets recently appeared on a two-hour radio
talk show in nearby Pittsburgh, PA. "Now I have dozens of Pennsylvania UFO
witnesses calling in. The phone is still ringing," he says.
     "The local stories I'm hearing are very similar to those of people I've
interviewed across U.S., now going on maybe 800-900 in all. The grass roots
is where the phenomenon is phenomenal!

     "There is no question that much is happening in the field, some of it
even having to do with Unidentified Flying Objects and apparent non-human
intelligence," Teets quips. "I'm just a reporter with a front row seat to
cover either the Millennial 'lizard feast,' genetic picnic, planetary
mind-warp, guys in da' skies (or disguise), stealth tech revelation, real
Star Wars, peek-a-boo with Gaia ascending or Goddess Descending, interstitial
Super Bowl or the Second Coming. Whatever. And if I don't make it, there will
surely be a reporter somewhere who will file the story. Indeed, what the
field needs most is some honest journalism."
     Teets has written a number of books, including the best-seller, "Killing
Waters," published in 1985. He is president of Headline Books, Inc., which
published "West Virginia UFOs," and which publishes numerous Appalachian and
regional writers on a variety of subjects including political biography, art,
military and family history, nostalgia and a sub-genre known as "newsbooks."

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3) "DREAMLAND" RADIO FEATURES UFO RESEARCHERS

UFO researcher Bill Hamilton, Director of Investigations for MUFON-LA and
author of the book "Cosmic Top Secret," will be the guest on Art Bell's
nationally syndicated radio show, "Dreamland,"  on Sunday, April 2. Bill can
be reached via email at [e-mail].
     ISCNI faculty member Linda Moulton Howe gives a brief research update on
"Dreamland" every week, prior to the main guest.
     "Dreamland" is among the best radio programs that deals regularly with
UFO/CNI subject matter, and is heard on more than 90 radio stations
nationwide. If you do not know a station near you that carries the program,
you can call Art Bell for information at 702-727-8444.

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